Ssd Drives For Mac
The new Mac Minis have super fast SSD Drives. I measured read times of 2500MB/s which is 5 times faster than the SSD drive in my old mac mini. But these drives are super super expensive. (An extra US$1400 for a 2TB drive). So I thought it might be an option to buy a Mac Mini with a small internal drive (256GB) and add an external SSD drive and combine them into a fusion drive. It didn’t work! But I thought I ‘d write a post in case anyone else has the same idea.
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Once the SSD is bolted in then it fits the Mac hard drive caddy like any other standard 3.5 drive. One SATA or two? This is where it gets interesting, one SSD it would seem is not enough, and for this journey, I require a SATA SSD for my boot drive and a PCI-E Nvme SSD for my working drive.
Disk Speeds
Here are the read speeds of various drive configurations measured with Black Magic disk test:
Old Mac Mini (2012):
Internal SSD drive: 480Mb/s:
New Mac Mini T2 2018:
Internal SSD: 2500Mb/s
External (USB-C) SSD: 530Mb/s
The new Mac Minis are much faster, but I was interested in the speed difference between the internal SSD and external SSD. It is so significant that this would be an ideal situation to make a fusion drive. A fusion drive was designed by Apple to ‘fuse’ an SSD drive to a slower spinning drive to ‘speed it up.’ The writes are done to the SSD, and the most used files are kept on the SSD. Then files are copied between the SSD and the slower drive in the background. So imagine being able to make an Fusion drive with a fast and a slow SSD.
Making a Fusion Drive.
Here’s how I made a fusion Drive:
Firstly I had to boot from the internet recovery partition. (Reboot and hold down Apple-R).
I plugged in my Samsung T5 drive and combined with the internal SSD drive of the Mac Mini to form a new Fusion Drive. The Fusion Drive is blank so you then need to reinstall OS X onto it. The instructions are here:
https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT207584
and here:
In summary, firstly you need to run this command below to find out the names of your drives:
diskutil list
Then you combine both drives into one substituting the numbers that you found above :
diskutil coreStorage create FUSION /dev/disk1 /dev/disk2
Then you need to create the drive volume:
diskutil cs createVolume logicalvolumegroup jhfs+ Macintosh HD 100%
After that you just format the drive as APFS, and install OSX. This gives the Fusion Drive a recovery partition and everything ready to go.
What worked, and what didn’t.
Well the drive seemed to work. The Internal Mac Mini SSD drive speed was 2500MB/s. The Samsung T5 SSD was 530MB/s. My newly created fusion drive was 2700!
This is the original internal SSD from the new Mac Mini:
Not only is the Fusion drive as fast as the Internal SSD (which is what I would expect), it’s actually FASTER!!! The fusion drive must be reading and writing from BOTH drives simultaneously. They had plenty of free space so this makes sense.
So what didn’t work? Well the computer was completely unstable. Random restarts. Crashing halfway through installing OS X. Disk Utility crashing. There was some crazy deep level conflict that meant the Mac just wouldn’t run properly! I rang Apple support and they talked me through splitting and re-makign the fusion drive but it was still unstable.
So in the end I had to split my fusion drive back into two separate drives.
If you use the Mojave command “diskutil resetFusion” to try to fuse 2 SSD drives it says that you can only create a Fusion drove from an SSD and a HDD.
Conclusion
With PCIe hard drives been so expensive it makes complete sense for Apple to allow Fusion drives made with a PCIe SSD combined with slower cheaper SSD. I’m not sure why this didn’t work. IF you try to make a fusion drive in Mojave with the Apple say they only support fusion of an SSD with a Hard disk drive.
I’d love to hear if anyone else has had success with this. Leave message below if you do!
UPDATE 13th Jan 2018: Yesterday I tried making a fusion drive from the internal Mac Mini drive and an external Seagate FAST SSD drive. It worked flawlessly installing Mac OSX up until the point where I rebooted, then it went into an endless repeating grey screen loop and never got to the desktop!
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nicossays:January 22, 2019 at 10:21 amThanks, very useful post. I have made a fusion drive with an external SSD and internal slow HD on my current iMac, and it’s been working very well.
I was thinking to do the set up you’re describing here with the Mac Mini I’m about to get, so it’s good to know that fusing 2 SSDs create problems…
So I guess we have to live with 2 drives on the desktop, and the added complications for Time Machine back up?
Did you ever resolve this?
I did something similar (SSD + internal NVME in iMac 5K) on Mojave (created is as HSF and let Mojave convert to APFS).
It’s running well for me, stable. No issues. However – I’m not getting the NVME speeds in disk test. It’s being limited to SATA speeds.
I found someone else that has a similar issue, but no solution so far.
ReplyWaynesays:February 11, 2019 at 12:56 pmNo I could not get it working.
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ReplyXiaosongsays:February 28, 2019 at 9:21 pmHi Salomon,
I’ve been running with the same issue earlier today, I am using a 1TB 970 eco to create a fusion drive with 128GB apple’s NVME SSD. I use the command above to create fusion drive and got SATA speed with is 500MB~ish speed.
I recall that there are multiple drive names showing up when you submit `diskutil list` for each physical hard drive, should be look like this:
/dev/disk0 (internal, physical):
#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER
0: GUID_partition_scheme *121.3 GB disk0
1: EFI EFI 209.7 MB disk0s1
2: Apple_APFS Container disk2 121.1 GB disk0s2
/dev/disk1 (internal, physical):
#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER
0: GUID_partition_scheme *1.0 TB disk1
1: EFI EFI 209.7 MB disk1s1
2: Apple_APFS Container disk2 1000.0 GB disk1s2
and I went back to use the identifier ending with disk*s2 as the name to create fusion container.
by the way, I was using the slower Sata ssd as first argument in the ` diskutil cs create “fusion” disk1s2 disk0s2` command.
The result turned out to be the the NVME drive speed and it seems to be very stable for the past couple hours with heavy load.
ReplyXiaosongsays:March 1, 2019 at 7:36 pmI’ve been running into the similar situation as you did, only getting SATA speed for fusion drive created using the similar command above.
Then I recall that some other instructions, they suggest using ` diskutil cs create “fusion” disk0s2 disk1s2` instead of disk0 disk1.
Then I went back to recreate my fusion drive, with the slower SSD coming first and NVMe SSD later.
And I successfully get the full NVMe speed using this way.
ReplyWaynesays:March 1, 2019 at 9:22 pmInteresting. I tried with a Samsung SSD and also with a Seagate Fast SSD, both using USB-C. Both were unstable as a FUSION drive. So I am now running my Seagate as an external USB-C SSD drive.
What enclosure is the 1TB 970 eco in? Do you have a 2018 mac mini?
Yes I’ve read that the first drive needs to be the faster of the two because that’s what core storage assumes.
My understanding is that
disk0 is the whole hard disk
disk0s2 is the volume
So are you saying that using the Volume `diskutil cs create “fusion” disk0s2 disk1s2` instead of the disk disk0 disk1 might be more stable?
Apple’s instructions specifically say to use the drive identifier. e.g. ” In the IDENTIFIER column, find the identifier for each of the two internal, physical drives that make up your Fusion Drive. Usually the identifiers are disk0 and disk1. ” See also here: https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/apfsfusion
ReplyWaynesays:March 1, 2019 at 9:52 pmApple manual says this:
” create createLVG lvgName devices …
Create a CoreStorage logical volume group. The
disks specified will become the (initial) set of
physical volumes; more than one may be specified.
You can specify partitions (which will be re-typed
to be Apple_CoreStorage) or whole-disks (which will
be partitioned as GPT and will contain an
Apple_CoreStorage partition). The resulting LVG
UUID can then be used with createVolume below. All
existing data on the drive(s) will be lost. Owner-
ship of the affected disk is required.”
Waynesays:March 1, 2019 at 9:58 pm My gut reaction is that it’s nothing to do with specifying the partition or the whole drive. Maybe it’s more to do with the brand of Hard Disk. OS X was certainly having trouble with the Samsung drive, it was taking 1 minute extra to boot up whenever the Samsung SSD was connected.
ReplyThomassays:May 15, 2019 at 1:23 pmI have iMac 5k 2017 24GB blade and I want try replace hd with ssd re enabled fusion drive.
Any one have do this with correct procedure and if possible speed test.
Thank you 🙏
So I installed an OWC SATA SSD and an NVME M.2 SSD and tried to create a fusing drive using “diskutil” command above and midway through got an error. Now my NVME M.2 SSD won’t read (won’t show up in disk utility). anyone have any suggestions on how to reset the drive or get it to mount or to be recognized again?
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says:July 8, 2019 at 1:35 pmDisconnect the OWC drive, reboot into Recovery Mode (Command-Option-R), and you should be able to re-format the internal drive back to what it was. If you get stuck ring Apple support!
ReplyJakesays:September 20, 2019 at 11:50 amHi! I have a late 2012 iMac 27”, originally with 3 TB Fusion Drive. Seagate HDD failed twice. Once I replaced it under warranty and the second time I acted before it was too late. I ordered parts from OWC and had a faulty HDD replaced with Samsung 860 EVO 2 TB SSD. I had a Time Machine backup done in advance.
Initially I wanted to use Migration Assistant to restore Applications, Other Folders and Computer/Network Settings to Apple 128 Gb SSD and then restore my home folder to Samsung SSD. But it didn’t work out as I expected. Previously all applications were grouped in folders in Launch Pad and I had applets in the top bar. After the restoration all the applications are ungrouped and none of the applets is running. Besides, Migration Assistant does not allow you to choose a destination drive.
I thought I would go to Settings/Users and Groups and manually change the path for my home folder to Samsung SSD. But I couldn’t complete the operation as the Settings app froze.
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I know Fusion Drive is not supposed to run on two SSDs but I see no way to easily move Fusion Drive backup to two SSDs and have a functional system.
So I manually recreated Fusion Drive with two SSDs in terminal and now I am restoring from a Time Machine backup. If anyone can tell me how to restore System, Applications and Settings to a blade SSD and restore user data to a second SSD I would gladly do it. I faced insurmountable problems and there are really posts on how to do it. I don’t know how stable this setup will be.
ReplyWaynesays:September 20, 2019 at 12:27 pmI have found it best to keep your User folder on the boot drive. You can still put most of your Documents on an external second SSD though. Your documents don’t need to be in your user folder. You can move your iPhoto library to an external drive, and your iTunes folder, and your movies, and your entire Documents folder. I have 190GB on my boot disk, that’s the internal SSD. Basically the system, the apps, the desktop folder, and some application data that doesn’t like to be outside of the user home folder the desktop, but most applications allow you to store your data somewhere other than the user folder. My external SSD has 450GB used. Keep the folder structure of your user folder (e.g. keep a ‘Documents’ folder and a ‘Music’ folder). Just move all the data out of them to your external drive.
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September 22, 2019 at 3:51 amThanks. I read some how-tos and understood I was not moving the home folder correctly. So I attempted to do it again. In the process, I benchmarked the Fusion Drive as it is now (Apple SSD 128 Gb and Samsung EVO 860 2 TB) by Black Magic and Amorphous DiskMark. You get a warning when attempting to create Fusion Drive from 2 SSDs, I had to do it manually. I also discovered what others mentioned that Apple enables TRIM command only on Apple SSDs, not on third-party SSDs so EVO 860 did not have TRIM enabled as Mojave assumed it is a platter disk. You have to manually enable TRIM for non-Apple disks.
In the end, I move the home folder to any external drive, create a backup and set up Apple SSD as boot and EVO 860 as the home folder drive. I ran benchmarks again and was surprised that EVO 860 is faster than Apple SSD! All the talk about built-in SSD being faster than SATA SSDs is all wrong. If I knew that I would keep the original backup of the Fusion Drive and restore it exclusively to Samsung EVO 860 drive. No need to move the home folder. There is no speed gain to achieve. Still, I met some new problems. I have Wi-Fi no hardware installed. Wi-Fi works in Recovery mode but after a normal boot. Resetting PRAM and SMC did not help. Wi-Fi does not work in Safe mode or in any other user account. Also, Books database is corrupt and I cannot reset it. So I am back to square one and will have to reinstall Mojave again, this time on EVO 860 with the home folder on it.